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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9976 |
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Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9976 at Aurora, Illinois on July 10, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in September 1953 (c/n 18318) on EMD Order 2059A, it became BN 9976 and was later rebuilt and renumbered to BN 9908. It is seen here on the Aurora Depot turntable. The CB&Q had just received the first of its Budd push-pull cab control gallery cars a month earlier, a total of six cars, but not all had arrived yet. Some trains still needed their locomotives turned. Upon arrival at Aurora, the power was cut off and switched to the turntable, located behind the depot. This locomotive had just backed onto the turntable and will be rotated 180 degrees and coupled back onto the train for the return trip to Chicago.Below is a comment from Karl Rethwisch, and it peaked my curiosity, so I e-mail back to inquire about the meaning of the comment, and he responded:I was reviewing some Q stuff on rrpicurerchives.net, and came across your shot of the 'Pelican' (AKA 9976) on the turntable at Aurora Depot. I used the TT many times, along with the Cab Signal Test Loop.I e-mailed back, inquiring about the terms 'Pelican' and 'Cab Signal Test Loop', and here is that response:'Pelican', that term was coined by a suburban Engineer named Alex Fox. It was soon adopted by every other Engineer. The 9976 had EVERY undesirable quality one could imagine all wrapped up in one good lookin' E unit.Brakes. She didn't HAVE any !! Dinkys relied HEAVILY on the engine brake to be able to do all the crazy stuff we HAD to do to stay on time.Transition. This is the electrical equivalent of 'shifting gears'. The two power plants were adjusted to slightly different values to allow one power plant to 'transition', series to parallel, before the other did likewise to provide lurch-free acceleration. The '76, after two or three stops would, somehow, manage to synchronize BOTH power plants to produce the exact opposite of lurch-free acceleration. All-in-all, she was the antithesis of one's expectations of EMD locomotives.The Cab Signal Test Loop. Before a locomotive equipped with ACS (Automatic Cab Signal) was qualified to operate in ACS territory and rely on cab signal indications, the ACS system had to be tested prior to departure. After cutting away from the train in the Aurora Depot the original test was no longer considered valid and an operational test was required before departing Aurora. A push button at the west end of the table activated the loop and provided evidence of a functioning signal system.I believe I may also have mentioned the 9988B. She was the ONLY Q E unit capable of attaining 100 mph from a start at Naperville to passing under the 'J' (EJ&E) bridge east of Eola with a two car train. Now remember, I only HEARD that she could do that. Also she still exists in Florida as the, I believe, 9913 (the old BN number). |
| Photo Date: |
7/10/1965 Upload Date: 4/29/2009 5:05:32 PM |
| Location: |
Aurora, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Roster |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9976(E8A) |
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1425 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9976 |
| Description: |
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9976 eastbound at Eola, Illinois on July 17, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Although this unit was not (at this date) equipped with HEP, it was able to power the two cars it pulls as a result of a modification by the CB&Q shops to allow the auxiliary generators of the locomotive to power the lights. The coaches were heated with steam, and the air conditioning was powered by propane Waukesha engines on each coach. |
| Photo Date: |
7/17/1965 Upload Date: 3/6/2009 12:15:49 PM |
| Location: |
Eola, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Roster |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9976(E8A) |
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1241 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
The Pelican. |
| Description: |
Final 6 mi. and then home. |
| Photo Date: |
4/1/1970 Upload Date: 12/7/2009 7:49:10 PM |
| Location: |
Eola, IL |
| Author: |
Karl Rethwisch |
| Categories: |
Passenger,Action |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9976(E8A) |
| Views: |
1056 Comments: 2 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9977 |
| Description: |
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9977 westbound at Naperville, Illinois on May 16, 1963, photograph by Chuck Zeiler. |
| Photo Date: |
5/16/1963 Upload Date: 7/17/2016 9:17:47 PM |
| Location: |
Naperville, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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422 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q 9977 at Daytons Bluff |
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| Photo Date: |
6/4/1964 Upload Date: 7/6/2007 9:39:24 PM |
| Location: |
Saint Paul, MN |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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1290 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9977 |
| Description: |
CB&Q E8 9977 eastbound at Naperville, Illinois, March 22, 1965, photo by Chuck Zeiler. |
| Photo Date: |
3/22/1965 Upload Date: 3/18/2011 2:41:41 PM |
| Location: |
Naperville, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Roster,Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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757 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9977 |
| Description: |
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9977 eastbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 19, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. |
| Photo Date: |
4/19/1965 Upload Date: 7/17/2016 9:06:31 PM |
| Location: |
Naperville, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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349 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9977 |
| Description: |
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9977 westbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 26, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. |
| Photo Date: |
4/26/1965 Upload Date: 5/7/2015 2:08:14 PM |
| Location: |
Naperville, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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428 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9977 |
| Description: |
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9977 westbound at Naperville, Illinois on April 28, 1965, Ektachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built September 1953 as CB&Q E-8 #9977 (c/n 18619), it became BN #9977. Around December 1974 it was sent to Morrison-Knudsen to be rebuilt to E8-Au specs, exchanging its twin 12-567B model power assemblies for 15-645EC's, and the electrical system was upgraded. In addition, the steam generators were replaced with a Cummins 500Kw generator for Head End Power (HEP). When it returned to BN rails (now numbered 9904) it was owned by the West Suburban Mass Transit District (WSMTD) and leased to the BN, and named "Village of Lisle". It worked!suburban trains until July 1992 when it was retired, and eventually became Illinois Central #101. |
| Photo Date: |
4/28/1965 Upload Date: 5/15/2008 12:14:18 PM |
| Location: |
Naperville, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Roster |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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1258 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q 9977 at Congress Park Station |
| Description: |
CB&Q 9977-650802 Congress Park E8A |
| Photo Date: |
8/2/1965 Upload Date: 10/13/2008 8:00:42 PM |
| Location: |
Brookfield, IL |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
| Views: |
830 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q 9977 at Congress Park Commuter Station in 1965 |
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| Photo Date: |
8/2/1965 Upload Date: 7/6/2007 9:39:28 PM |
| Location: |
La Grange, IL |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
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2083 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E8 9977 |
| Description: |
Chicago Burlington & Quincy Railroad E8 9977 at Aurora, Illinois on a fan trip to West Burlington, Iowa to see 5632 (as it turned out, for the last time) on September 26, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. |
| Photo Date: |
9/26/1965 Upload Date: 3/5/2015 3:17:36 PM |
| Location: |
Aurora, IL |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Signal |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9977(E8A) |
| Views: |
623 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
BN 9977 |
| Description: |
Basking in the summer sun this E-8 is waiting for the next commuter run to Chicago. |
| Photo Date: |
7/1/1973 Upload Date: 7/30/2007 12:07:07 PM |
| Location: |
Aurora, IL |
| Author: |
Michael ONeil |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
BN 9977(E8A) |
| Views: |
3270 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
BN 9977 |
| Description: |
BN 9977 at the old Aurora depot. |
| Photo Date: |
7/31/1973 Upload Date: 3/18/2009 1:40:56 PM |
| Location: |
Aurora, IL |
| Author: |
Michael ONeil |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
BN 9977(E8A) |
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772 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
FW&D E8A 9981A |
| Description: |
Taken sometime in the 1960 |
| Photo Date: |
1/1/1962 Upload Date: 11/13/2018 1:18:15 PM |
| Location: |
Birmingham, AL |
| Author: |
Fred Byerly |
| Categories: |
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| Locomotives: |
FWD 9981A(E8A) |
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663 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
FW&D E8 9981A |
| Description: |
Fort Worth & Denver Railway E8 9981A at Denver Union Station on August 27, 1965, Kodachrome by Chuck Zeiler. Built in December 1952 (c/n 17440) on EMD Order 6458, it was sold to Precision Engineering April 11, 1968, was re-sold to SCL, becoming 524, in August 1972 became Amtrak 231, retired by Amtrak May 28, 1975 and sold to Naporano Iron & Metal Co., Newark, New Jersey. |
| Photo Date: |
8/27/1965 Upload Date: 10/19/2020 3:54:00 PM |
| Location: |
Denver, CO |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
RollingStock |
| Locomotives: |
FWD 9981A(E8A) |
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468 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
FW&D E8 9981A |
| Description: |
FW&D E8 9981A at Denver Union Station on August 27, 1965, photo by Chuck Zeiler. Built in December 1952 (c/n 17440) on EMD Order 6458, it was sold to Precision Engineering April 11, 1968, and was re-sold to SCL, becoming 524, and in August 1972 became Amtrak 231, retired by Amtrak May 28, 1975 and sold to Naporano Iron & Metal Co., Newark, New Jersey. |
| Photo Date: |
8/27/1965 Upload Date: 5/9/2009 2:09:15 PM |
| Location: |
Denver, CO |
| Author: |
Chuck Zeiler |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Station |
| Locomotives: |
FWD 9981A(E8A) |
| Views: |
1756 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
North Coast Limited in 1962 |
| Description: |
Locomotive number not recorded. |
| Photo Date: |
4/29/1962 Upload Date: 7/6/2007 10:50:37 AM |
| Location: |
Westmont, IL |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
Station |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
1886 Comments: 2 |
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| Title: |
Inbound on the Express Track |
| Description: |
Exact number not recorded. |
| Photo Date: |
1/4/1965 Upload Date: 7/3/2007 8:12:54 AM |
| Location: |
Westmont, IL |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
635 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
Westbound CB&Q passenger train at East Dubuque, IL |
| Description: |
Stopped at East Dubuque, IL. Taken from the narrow ramp up to the old high bridge to Dubuque |
| Photo Date: |
5/1/1965 Upload Date: 3/30/2011 11:13:42 PM |
| Location: |
Dubuque, IA |
| Author: |
Mark Gayman |
| Categories: |
Station,Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
1803 Comments: 5 |
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| Title: |
A Dinky at Near Fairview Ave. |
| Description: |
Exact date and diesel number unrecorded. |
| Photo Date: |
8/15/1968 Upload Date: 7/3/2007 8:12:54 AM |
| Location: |
Downers Grove, IL |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
906 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
Afternoon Zephyr |
| Description: |
UofM Area Long Shot |
| Photo Date: |
1/1/1969 Upload Date: 4/18/2010 1:55:12 PM |
| Location: |
Minneapolis, MN |
| Author: |
Mike Cunningham |
| Categories: |
Signal,Passenger,Action |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
736 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
CB&Q E units on the Empire Builder in St Paul MN in 1969. |
| Description: |
GN ran the Empire Builder daily from Seattle WA to St Paul MN. The CB&Q then took the train from St Paul MN to Chicago IL. |
| Photo Date: |
5/29/1969 Upload Date: 2/16/2012 10:43:02 AM |
| Location: |
Saint Paul, MN |
| Author: |
S Kotnour |
| Categories: |
Roster,Station,Passenger,Action |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
1897 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
North Coast Limited |
| Description: |
Locomotive number not recorded. |
| Photo Date: |
8/27/1969 Upload Date: 7/6/2007 10:50:40 AM |
| Location: |
Eola, IL |
| Author: |
Marty Bernard |
| Categories: |
Yard |
| Locomotives: |
CBQ 9999(E8A) |
| Views: |
1361 Comments: 1 |
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| Title: |
AMTK 64583 |
| Description: |
Former Amtrak no. 458 appears to be ready for the scrapper's torch. Ralph L. Phillips photo, from the Ralph L. Phillips collection of the Bay State Model Railroad Museum. |
| Photo Date: |
2/15/1981 Upload Date: 10/9/2022 1:50:06 AM |
| Location: |
New Haven, CT |
| Author: |
Ralph L. Phillips |
| Categories: |
Roster,Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
AMTK 64583(E8A) |
| Views: |
305 Comments: 0 |
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| Title: |
AMTK 64583 |
| Description: |
Former Amtrak no. 458 appears to be ready for the scrapper's torch. Ralph L. Phillips photo, from the Ralph L. Phillips collection of the Bay State Model Railroad Museum. |
| Photo Date: |
2/15/1981 Upload Date: 10/9/2022 1:54:50 AM |
| Location: |
New Haven, CT |
| Author: |
Ralph L. Phillips |
| Categories: |
Roster,Yard,Passenger |
| Locomotives: |
AMTK 64583(E8A) |
| Views: |
312 Comments: 0 |
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